Testimonials of our Other Herbal Products
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Benign Breast Cyst Disappearing
I am 35 years old, and 5 years ago I found 2 little cysts in my breast.
At that time my doctor told me the cyst was almost normal. So I took some precautions, but did not worry very much. Then two years ago one of the cysts started growing. Its size was almost 1 1/2” in diameter. I was able to see it. And it was scary. The skin on my left breast became red and the pain was unbearable. After mammograms and ultrasounds my doctor decided to drain the cyst. I felt so great after that. Unfortunately it started growing again, getting to its original size in less than two months! I became scared, sad and disappointed.
I saw two more doctors and they recommended surgical removal of the cyst, given that it needed to be drained too often. Surgery, however, did not make sense to me. Nothing guarantees that I won’t get new cysts again. So I decided first to try something else. I was familiar with the quality of Radiant Wonder. Calm Energy helped me a lot when I quit smoking. I had made it part of my personal treatment at that time. So right after the doctor drained my cyst (March of this year), I started taking Classic Cleansing and doing the recommended skin brushing daily. At this time (October) I am still having cysts, but they are slowly shrinking and haven’t needed to be drained for 7 months!
Of course none of these herbal formulas only help you in one way. Classic Cleansing and the skin brushing has been a process that has also helped me change other habits, and that also makes me feel better. I have more energy. My skin glows. I have a growing peace of mind. I finally feel I have this problem under control.
Thank you so much. Nothing else worked for me before.
Chemotherapy Left Me Hopeless, yet now I hold my 2 Week Old Baby
I had chemotherapy for breast cancer at the age of 32. Then I started experiencing menopausal symptoms a year later and was told that I would not be able to conceive naturally as a result. Six years later, still having hot flashes, I could not give up my dream for a child. So I started taking different herbal formulas, such as Schizandra, Liver Tonic 3000, Calm Energy, Super Fertility #2 and Stress Relief. Usually two formulas at a time. I also had acupuncture and cut back on coffee. This was all in the hope of conceiving despite what the medical people had told me.
I felt a lot better and my hormones seemed to balance because I had near enough regular periods. At the end of that year, I reached the age of 40 and decided to accept that I wasn’t going to have children. However, I also took a break from my very stressful job. This seemed to be the missing piece in the jigsaw and 5 months later I unexpectedly fell pregnant.
It was so unexpected I did not realize I was pregnant until I was 9 weeks! Our baby son was born 9 months later. We couldn’t be happier. I am convinced that the Radiant Wonder herbs helped repair my system. I felt so much more alive and healthy. And the other things I did also helped. So thank you, I hope that other people using your products are as happy as we are.
Doctors can not believe how strong I stay with weekly chemo treatments and Radiant Immune Defense. It really works now. It is for real. I have been using it now for 2-3 years. Let me tell you my story. I had colon cancer when I was 6. I remember being so weak when I came out of chemo treatments. It was horrible. Then 8 years ago I found out I have liver cancer. I have to have a chemo treatment every week. The chemo wiped me out. For at least 3-4 days the chemo used to leave me exhausted. And I am 50 now, no longer 6. So the fatigue after the treatments was worse. I didn’t know what to do. A friend told me about Radiant Wonder 3 years ago. I started taking Radiant Immune Defense. I never had a problem with fatigue again. It has made a big difference for me. I mean it. After so many years with liver cancer and not being able to do things, now I do everything I was doing before I got the cancer. And, extra bonus, I never get colds and flus anymore. The doctors can’t believe the difference in how I feel and how I can take the treatments. I own a tire shop. I can lift the tires. I can do everything I could do before I got the cancer.
Note: For legal reasons it is important for us to note that this is not a researched claim. It is the experience of one individual. Radiant Immune Defense is full of adaptogenic herbs which have been researched and have been shown to support the immune system. In Chinese theory it is impossible to support what we call the body’s protective mechanisms without also supporting energy. Radiant Immune Defense protects by strengthening the immune system and therefore supports energy.
Cholesterol Dropped 50 Points In 3 Months!
Over the last couple of years I have taken many different formulas, talking with my herbalist from time to time, as I changed my goals and my formulas. I am a middle school teacher and often under a LOT of stress. I have told so many people about you. How effective your herbal formulas have been for me. I believe in what you are doing because I know that your formulas work. I know herbs. I also know if the formulas are really good, they are the way to go. Yours are very high quality and the form they are in they really work. Right now, I am taking herbs to support my energy and reduce my stress: Digestive Energizer, Transition I, Super Nourishing and Free and Clear. Free and Clear is new to my program. I have taken Harmony, Stress Relief or Balance in the past for easing the tension which builds up during the day. I really like Harmony a lot, but now I also like Free and Clear. How can I describe it? I would say I feel less dragged down. It just lets me naturally feel good.
Also, I have some great news to report. My cholesterol dropped 50 points in 3 months! I won’t test again until January, so at that time I’ll let you know how things have continued to progress. I started taking Cholest-X mid-May this year. By the beginning of August my cholesterol had dropped 50 points. It went from 265 to 205.
In April I went to the doctor for a physical. They did the regular blood work and they found that my cholesterol was 265. The doctor said I would have to be on medication. I protested medication. I didn’t want to be on medication so I asked if could use diet. He would give me until the middle of July. That was only 3 months. He said if I didn’t get it under control in 3 months he would put me on medication. So I contacted you and started taking Cholest-X and CO Q10. I went back in the middle of July . He did another blood test and he looked at it and my cholesterol had dropped to 215! So it dropped 50 points. And he said looks like you are doing great, just keep doing what you are doing. I made some dietary changes, but my diet has always been good. I know that the Cholest-X made a big difference.
Cholesterol Way Down
My husband, Sam’s cholesterol was 284 before starting the Radiant Wonder Healthy Living Program. His medical doctor had put him on 10 mgs of Zocor. The cholesterol moved a little, but not much. The doctor doubled the dose. The Zocor was helping, but not enough. Sam’s cholesterol was fluctuating a lot. So Sam started looking for supportive programs. He traded information with his friends who had the same problem. He tried Guggul, and anything else that looked promising. Nothing seemed to work.
Then, Sam heard about Radiant Wonder through a friend of mine. For six months Sam used our cholesterol-reducing Cholest-X, Zocor, and Radiant Wonder Exercises. His cholesterol dropped to 164. He and his doctor were thrilled. At this point, Sam switched to the maintenance program for Cholest-X, and continued a reduced amount of Zocor.
His Cholesterol drifted up to 184 – which he and the doctor considered a very good level. Sam told his doctor he wanted to see what would happen without the Zocor, to see if he could keep things in line with exercise and diet. Sam has now kept the same cholesterol level (of low 180’s) for over a year. He never skips his Radiant Eight Exercises, eats well, and exercises daily. After his next check up he stopped the Cholest-X, too. And his numbers are still in line. His herbalist told him the goal is to help the body ‘get back on the job’ — to rebalance itself. We are so grateful.
Stress Cold Sores Never Show Up Anymore!
I can not believe this formula (Clear Simplex #1). When I first tried it I was having a stress cold sore. Someone in my family was dying and I was so worried and so stressed that my mouth sore started to come on so strong. I was so worried about things and in so much pain at the same time.
When I took this formula a friend offered me, I really did not expect it to do much. But I was willing to try. My pain went way down in one day! And the cold sore went away within a few days. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Now I keep a bottle on hand. If I even feel like I am getting a cold sore I immediately take 9 capsules that first day. I have not had a full outbreak for a year, which is completely amazing. I don’t take it everyday, only if I feel an outbreak coming on. Now I am also taking 2 Radiant Immune Defense everyday. This seems to be strengthening me so stress is less likely to cause a flareup, and strengthening my immune system so it can help to keep me simplex free!
Cycles Return, Fuller Hair, More Beautiful Skin
Dear Radiant Wonder,
I just wanted to send a Big Thanks for the good things that are happening to my body.
I went to get a hair cut and the girl who cuts my hair said, Karen your hair is thicker!
I told her it was the herbs from Radiant Wonder, and how my skin feels so smooth.
I don’t know where to begin to say thanks. I’m feeling great all around I don’t feel that anxiety that would take over my body. The sweats are not like before. The Calm Energy and Super Fertility #2 are doing wonders for me! I am staring to run better like I did 3 years ago. My stamina is getting better. I am getting back to who I am! I hope my period comes back and I feel that it will. I had some signs of it. I got CRAMPS — bring them on (LOL). I haven’t had any cramps for months, so I know my body is changing for the good. I will keep you up to date. Thanks so much.
Eczema and Nightshades
I used to have a serious case of eczema on my fingers, and especially between the fingers. It was itchy, oozy, and ugly. And I just could not get rid of it. I used the hydrocortisone cream daily. It would tame it down, but never get rid of the breakouts. Then I went to a school for Chinese Medicine, Emperors College, and checked with the doctor in the clinic. It was advised that I should take a homeopathic allergy test. This seemed a waste of time for me because I had already had a thorough Western investigation into possible allergies. Nothing was positive. This test however tested positive for what was at the time one of my favorite foods: potato. I stopped eating potatoes for about 3 months. The eczema completely disappeared.
I went back to eating potatoes and a flareup happened the next day. Back I went into ”non-potato land” (a very sad place). Six months later I tried potatoes again. There was no reaction. I could eat potatoes again!
To this day I can eat potatoes. But, if I eat them more than one day, or if I eat too much, my tummy just doesn’t feel right. If I eat them more than one day in a row I never get the eczema, but the skin between my fingers will get rough. If I stop the potatoes the skin still stays rough for about a month.
If I take Skin Detox Anti-Inflammation Formula (3 capsules 3 times a day) for 3-4 days the hard skin disappears and my hands feel soft again with those few days. I never use the hydrocortisone cream at all anymore. Since that time (which was some years ago) I have discovered the nightshade family. I believe I am also sensitive to tomatoes.
Having marinara sauce on pasta or tomatoes in a salad does not give me eczema, but it does give me the same uncomfortable feeling in my stomach. It is logical that it might be causing inflammation somewhere else in the body. So I generally avoid tomato as well. (The family picture was taken a few weeks ago. I had some delicious mashed potatoes, with no consequences at all. This was the rehearsal dinner for our niece’s wedding.)
Energy And Libido Returned!
I am doing well. I have been doing the exercises, and I love them (but I am trying to get into the everyday routine). So far, the best thing has been drinking hot stuff instead of cold. Besides feeling very nice, I have stopped being constipated.
But, as far as my diet, I have not been eating a lot of cooked greens. I had been so busy, that just this past week was when I bought spinach and broccoli. I will try this week to eat greens once a day. Also I have been massaging my ears, which feels great, but I tend to forget and I only do it in the evening at home. The same for the breathing exercises. And I have not done yet the lymphatic massage.
One more thing, my husband has been taking his herbs, and it seems like his libido has really increased. I started to notice about a week after he started his pills. It’s very interesting! Well, thank you very much for your email, and I hope to hear from you.
Once again thank you, I have been feeling more energized.
I am 52 years old and for the last 5 years I have had a difficult time with my sex life. Out of the blue I stopped having orgasms, and we would try for hours. We love each other and we love having sex, but this was becoming a never ending nightmare.
So I went to the doctor and he gave me Viagra. That worked for a month. I was having orgasms again. Then it just stopped working. I would still get an erection from hell, but no orgasm. The concept of a marathon sex event could be off and on, no kidding, once for 2 days. Maybe in your twenties that sounds good but when you are 50 and your wife is in her 40s it is not a good picture.
The doctor had nothing else to offer. Then a few months ago my wife gave me some Prostate Pro 3000 from Radiant Wonder. I took 3 twice a day for the first week to get it in my system. My wife was unavailable that week, so we didn’t try for a week. It was amazing. We started making love and about a half hour later I had a normal orgasm. Can you imagine how we both felt!
It has now been 2 months and everything is still working normally. In fact I am actually able to have an orgasm, have a second one and another orgasm.
A couple of other definite side benefits: I definitely feel better in other ways. I have more energy. And some of the brain fog is lifting.
Headache Relief And More Energy
My biggest health complaint was pain and low energy. I would either have no energy and no pain; or I would begin my day with abundant energy and almost immediately begin a migraine or feel nauseous. I could not win and I had to forego every day errands and family activities. I would have one or two migraines every week and on occasion vomiting — The worst curse in the world is when your head is pounding in excruciating pain. I was so miserable. I was also bloated after every meal and had chronic constipation since I was a child. Not fun! My doctors had no relief for me. I found Radiant Wonder online. I decided to do something. I started a simple Herbal StartUp Program of 2 bottles of Headache Relief.. And I began the Steps to Success.
First step was the Hot Water Detox once a week. I felt hydrated for the first time and the water retention was leaving — no more swollen fingers and toes. The food I was eating felt like it was being readily absorbed instead of stuck in my belly; I could actually feel the hot water opening up my intestines and actually breaking down and moving the food.
The Headache Relief herbs were beginning to take effect by week 3. I noticed a tremendous change in the way I felt. No more debilitating migraines. I was pain free and began having gentle energy flowing through my body. For the first time in years, I can get up and get through my day without ending up in agonizing pain and misery. Radiant Wonder has changed my life and I am so excited to get to the next step in my renewed life.
I am so thankful to all the caring words and support. Radiant Wonder–you are AWESOME
Low Sperm Count and Low Motility
My wife and I had wanted to have a baby for several years, but with no luck. I kept thinking ”infertility is a woman’s problem” and all our efforts revolved around what we could do to make her more fertile. She saw so many changes all positive. Still nothing happened. The doctor said I should have a test for a low sperm count, motility and morphology. Well, it turned out that I was the problem. My sperm count was low and I had problems with the health of the sperm (the shape and the activity). I was shocked! My wife had been having good results for years with Radiant Wonder herbs for a number of different issues so she talked me into trying it.
In three months I went back to the doctor for another test. She wanted to know what the heck I was doing. My sperm count was way up and healthy again. It took about three more months, then my wife became pregnant and we’re now the parents of a beautiful baby boy. Once I swallowed my pride and started those herbs things really turned around.
Shoulder and Back Pain Relief
My name is Kurt and I work on a Mississippi riverboat as an engineer. In many ways it is a great life. I love being out on the river, and I also love being paid really well, and then getting off for 6 months. Last summer when I was on leave my girlfriend was with me when all of a sudden I started getting intense cramping in my shoulders and back. This happens to me when I get hot sometimes. She told me to take 5-6 of some capsules she had. It was amazing. The cramping got less and then within half an hour it was gone. I told her I needed some of that stuff for the boat. That stuff was a formula called Peony & Licorice, a safe and natural blood builder and cramping relaxer.
You see on the boat I am an engineer. I keep things working. A lot of my work can be in the engine room, where the temperature can be as high as 160-170 degrees. By the time I get out of there I am begging for air conditioning and I am exhausted. So I find a cool place, lie down, and then the cramping starts. It is so intense. I am so exhausted, but I am in such pain I can’t relax at all. I also crawl into places you have no business being in to fix something that needs to be fixed, using muscles you don’t ever use, and reaching out to do things in positions no one ever dreamed of. Peony & Licorice is absolutely amazing. If I take 5-6 Peony & Licorice the cramping relaxes down and stops. Sometimes I take them in advance if I know I am going to be working in the engine room. That also helps. Often I don’t cramp at all if I do that. I like that this is so safe with no side effects.
Radiant Wonder herbs are pretty cool. So far I have had great results with Cholest-X, and lowered my blood pressure. I am working with my doctor. He knows what I am doing but I’m not taking the drugs. Oh another thing. When my girl and I were deer hunting I started feeling really sick. I was definitely getting a cold. She whipped out this bottle of Stop It Cold! I took 3 capsules and then continued with 3 more capsules 3 times a day for 3 days more. Never got that cold at all. So I keep a bottle of that on the boat, too. Now I’m taking some Thermo Max #2 and Energy Boost to see if I can speed up the weight loss a little.
Leg Cramping Relief!
For a long time I have had cramping in my legs like that Restless Legs they talk about. I can tell you it is a very uncomfortable way to live. You never get a good night’s sleep. The leg cramps could happen in the day, but the worst starts in the evening when you are tired and trying to relax. You want to be still and your legs want to dance. It sounds funny but it is anything but.
If you sit or lie down it starts. If you get up and move it gets better. But night time is not the time to get up and move. How can I describe it? It is sort of like tightness, but also like something crawling deep in your legs. And it never stops. You want to move them to get some relief. Sometimes that helps, sometimes it doesn’t. You are exhausted and you really want to sleep. You try, but you are moving your legs off and on all night. Your sleep is always tossing and turning and a very restless sleep. And in the middle of the night you can feel a little mental when your legs are always having to move and everyone else is asleep. And during the day you feel completely exhausted.
Due to Radiant Wonder my restless legs are now getting better. It is kind of amazing. I take Peony and Licorice to help me with the cramping.
To my amazement my leg cramps are completely gone. After taking Peony and Licorice for less than a week my leg cramps were gone. I was told it might show up again, but when I take the Peony and Licorice everyday it hasn’t come back yet. I am just so grateful to be sleeping! And so happy to be getting my energy back.
Weight Loss AND Opened Tubes!
Amanda, I first must say that I am a big fan of your products.
So far I have used Thermo-Max #1, Free Flow and Cinnamon & Poria. Everything has WORKED!!!!
I was 180 pounds and now I am down to 160 pounds. It was so easy. Just take your herbs and do the super easy Radiant Eight Energy Exercises for 20 minutes a day. I also had one blocked fallopian tube, the Free Flow and Cinnamon & Poria have really helped with that. The doctors did not want to perform surgery on me because my right tube was still clear and ‘there was still a chance,’ but once I started using your products I could instantly feel a difference in my body. I had an HSG done. My left fallopian tube is open, without surgery!!!!
Once again, Radiant Wonder has lived up its name! You can use my story and picture. I hope it inspires someone else to use your products.
My Cholesterol Lowered!
In September, 2014, my doctor checked my cholesterol levels and wanted me to start taking statins. In reading up on the statins, I decided that I preferred to try something natural and explained this to my doctor. This month, May, 2015, I just had my annual physical yesterday and after taking Cholest-X during this period of time, my cholesterol is now back to normal. He was quite surprised and wants to test this again in about 6 months. I did start exercising and have tried to watch my diet, but personally, I believe the Cholest-X had to be a part of the reason that my cholesterol is now normal. I am going to continue taking this and see what the test results are in 6 months. Glad you have this product.
My Voice is Back! No More Sinus and Lung Congestion!
Hi Amanda, I can’t believe how fast your products work! I had a sinus drip for two years that created phlegm in the back of my throat, making my voice so hoarse that it was a constant struggle to talk. The constant phlegm in my throat created bronchial congestion, causing laryngitis, and after teaching an all-day seminar, I lost my voice for a week. This was scary, since I depend on my voice to make a living.
Then a friend told me about a singer who had used your product, Precious Voice, with great results, so I called Radiant Wonder.
I got products that would work with Precious Voice to help my sinus and lung congestion, and within just one day I began to feel the results. After 2-3 days, my voice was clearer and now the lung congestion is almost gone.
I still have a bit of a rasp in my voice, so I’m continuing with the program and will check in again with a progress report. Right now, though, my voice is so much better! I can talk without straining it or getting hoarse.
It’s hard to describe the relief I feel, both physically and emotionally — these products work better than I believed possible. This is the first time I’ve used Chinese herbs, and I’ve never had such fast results from any herb or vitamin. Ever. The results are absolutely amazing!
Increased Sperm Count = pregnancy in 5 weeks!
We tried for 3 years with no success! A friend told us about Radiant Wonder just over a month ago. My husband was always incredibly supportive even though he was struggling with male infertility. For my husband he took Male Fertility Formula, Deer Antler and Balance.
For myself, I took Super Fertility #5, Balance and Digest Ease #1. Within a week of taking these herbs, we could see physical changes with my husband. 3 weeks later we found out that I was 5 weeks PREGNANT! This was the first month we started taking the herbs! We are extremely grateful to Radiant Wonder and to all those who left Success Stories before us. Thank you for what you do!
No More Leg Pain and Pulled Muscles!
Good morning Amanda and team!
Just wanted to give you an update….
Ever since I’ve been taking the Peony & Licorice, I have not had any more cramping at all! As a matter of fact, I used to have leg pain in the morning for a couple of hours and now that’s gone as well! I am elated!
I just wanted to rave about the Peony & Licorice. Oh my goodness! I love this stuff! I started working out again on Monday of this week and I was doing fine until Tuesday when I thought I could conquer Jillian Michaels and her workout dvd. Well of course Jillian won and I ended up with a very painful pulled muscle in my inner thigh. It was so painful that I could hardly walk and it was the worst! I had left my Peony & Licorice at home by accident on Wednesday, however when I got home I took three that evening. When I woke up yesterday I walked the dog and got ready for work, not once realizing that I had no pain! It was like I never had pulled anything! It was amazing! No soreness, no pain, no nothing! I know it was the Peony & Licorice because I have pulled muscles before and trust me, they never went away within hours like this one did. Once again, I am grateful for your products and I am hooked for life!
Thanks again Ladies!!! Have a great Friday!
Your friend for life! 🙂
Pap Smear Negative! It Worked!
Hi Amanda– just wanted to let you know I just heard results of the pap and ECC (endocervical curetage) the new gynecologist did . . . NEGATIVE! It worked!
Since the statistics are that 60% of all women (those who have had sex) have HPV, I feel that my story is something worth sharing with other women who have been diagnosed and are carrying the same nagging worry I carried for 6 years. I was diagnosed with HPV 6 years ago after investigating the dysplasia (abnormal cells) which showed up with my pap smear.
For the next 6 years I had pap smears every 6 months. The cells were always diagnosed as abnormal. No cancer each time, but no improvement. I must have had 4-5 Colposcopies (cervical biopsies) during those years. Last November I was told that they wanted to do a biopsy under anesthesia for further investigation prior to perhaps a hysterectomy (if necessary). This seemed rather drastic to me and it was not an event I welcomed. I really wanted to avoid the procedure.
I have been working with Radiant Wonder for a long time (since 2005) for various issues. Never thought to bring this one up to anyone. It was suggested that I use the Yin Care and Yin Care Douche applicator for a series of treatments. I used 5 bottles with the protocol for menopausal women. This product is very pure and very safe to use. Plus, it was so easy. The douche is done in the shower (you fill up the applicator and then just administer while standing in the shower. Nothing is inserted. It is an easy quick wash of the vagina.) I finished the cycles in January.
I talked my doctor into humoring me with one more regular pap test first, she agreed and in February I had a retest (along with an endocervical curettage – a rather thorough test all together), I am ecstatic to report that the test results were negative! There was absolutely no dysplasia. Now I am just on a program to do this twice a year as a preventative. I also have a much better understanding of how the dysplasia can happen and why this douche is so safe and effective.
This is such a mental relief for me. There is enough challenge in life. My job is very demanding. Not to have this worry nagging at me when I think of my health and longevity is a real blessing.
You Can Feel Better!
34 years of teaching high school is a long time. I just did not realize what a toll it had taken. Add to that the crazy politics here in New Jersey, and Hurricane Sandy and I guess it is amazing I didn’t notice before the gradual but huge toll on my health I had been accumulating.
A dear friend of mine from Ohio who has been using Radiant Wonder for over 10 years encouraged me to call.
Gradually over the years as I saw what needed to be done and kept doing it without any regard for how I felt I seemed to have lost my good health. Well I wanted it back! And thanks to my friends at Radiant Wonder I got it back. A new lease on life is a real state of mind and body.
It took me getting a game plan and the willingness to do it. That made a BIG difference. I was determined not to stay in the place I had found myself. My results surely came from my following the program, but the wisdom and the kindness and the caring of everyone at Radiant Wonder can not be underestimated. I learned SO much about how my body really works, and what I could do to help myself.
Here is a partial list of the symptoms which disappeared within the first two months: digestive problems, bloating, nervousness, back pain, muscle tension, dry mouth, painful sex (because of being dry), dizziness, severe fatigue. When I think about how great I feel now and I look at that list I wonder how I even got through the days.
Be assured Radiant Wonder is a very special place. Thanks to all of you. And to anyone who reads this letter, DON’T think it is all over. You can begin again. I feel 10 years younger. Easily.
Also — a last note. I never get sick anymore. I used to get whatever the students were bringing in. It was miserable. Made all my other complaints worse. Now if I even think there is a cold around I take some Stop It Cold. Keeping Fight the Flu! around just in case. Has hit a few of the kids already. Pretty intense. But I really don’t think it will even bother with me. Just keep washing my hands, washing the door handle to the classroom and putting the kabosh on the flu.
PS Note from 6 years later: The tools I learned to use and some of the herbal formulas have continued to keep me and my body in a very good place.